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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – gonna spoiler for talk about multiple medical problems (er…that’s many, not…oh, never mind) and lots of anxieties… * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * had a bad day today.  almost constantly having that fluttering in the heart…an arrhythmia that nobody seems very worried about, and we wouldn’t either, except that it feels like we have butterflies or moths in our chest, wanting to get out all the time.  and with work, which was a little bit stressful today, because people were treating other people kinda mean, we got the shortness of breath and pain that we get when we get anxious but, of course, we were also having the fluttering thing, and that scared us a little bit. we thought about leaving the work, and going to the hospital, but then thought that they’d just think we’re crazy, which we pretty much think we are, so we decided if we were going to d*e, we might as well just go ahead and get it over with. well, we didn’t. we did call the doctor, and she gave us some pills to take every day to take the butterflies and moths away.  (somebody inside is laughing and saying it’s an insecticide.  somebody else doesn’t think that’s very funny) anyway, we’re feeling immensely overwhelmed tonight.  too much stuff to think about and do, and nobody to support us. our abdominal pain is also back, we’re peeing all the time, and we had bl*eding when we weren’t supposed to.  well, the doctor did say we could have another ultrasound.  that’s good. will somebody write to us and let us know they’re thinking about us?

we are.  we wish we had seen your post earlier, cuz it looks like you posted it last night and now it’s morning.  but we see it now and are with you in our thoughts. tv

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gonna spoiler for talk about multiple medical problems (er…that’s many, not…oh, never mind) and lots of anxieties… * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * had a bad day today.  almost constantly having that fluttering in the heart…an arrhythmia that nobody seems very worried about, and we wouldn’t either, except that it feels like we have butterflies or moths in our chest, wanting to get out all the time.  and with work, which was a little bit stressful today, because people were treating other people kinda mean, we got the shortness of breath and pain that we get when we get anxious but, of course, we were also having the fluttering thing, and that scared us a little bit. we thought about leaving the work, and going to the hospital, but then thought that they’d just think we’re crazy, which we pretty much think we are, so we decided if we were going to d*e, we might as well just go ahead and get it over with. well, we didn’t. we did call the doctor, and she gave us some pills to take every day to take the butterflies and moths away.  (somebody inside is laughing and saying it’s an insecticide.  somebody else doesn’t think that’s very funny) anyway, we’re feeling immensely overwhelmed tonight.  too much stuff to think about and do, and nobody to support us. our abdominal pain is also back, we’re peeing all the time, and we had bl*eding when we weren’t supposed to.  well, the doctor did say we could have another ultrasound.  that’s good. will somebody write to us and let us know they’re thinking about us?

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we are.  we wish we had seen your post earlier, cuz it looks like you posted it last night and now it’s morning.  but we see it now and are with you in our thoughts.

thank you.  we are having a different kind of bad day today, so we are glad you said hi. Ravensong "If you feel bad, blow bubble stuff or watch the snails after it rains.  That always makes me feel better."                                     – Katy, of Ravensong

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WOW! When I had arrhythmias my dr freaked! I"m surprised yours is so calm about it. What are you taking? An anti-anxiety or a heart thing? As for the rest. Hopefully they will figure it all out with the ultrasound. Maybe it will be something simple? Rainbow Colors (Jill) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – gonna spoiler for talk about multiple medical problems (er…that’s many, not…oh, never mind) and lots of anxieties… * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * had a bad day today.  almost constantly having that fluttering in the heart…an arrhythmia that nobody seems very worried about, and we wouldn’t either, except that it feels like we have butterflies or moths in our chest, wanting to get out all the time.  and with work, which was a little bit stressful today, because people were treating other people kinda mean, we got the shortness of breath and pain that we get when we get anxious but, of course, we were also having the fluttering thing, and that scared us a little bit. we thought about leaving the work, and going to the hospital, but then thought that they’d just think we’re crazy, which we pretty much think we are, so we decided if we were going to d*e, we might as well just go ahead and get it over with. well, we didn’t. we did call the doctor, and she gave us some pills to take every day to take the butterflies and moths away.  (somebody inside is laughing and saying it’s an insecticide.  somebody else doesn’t think that’s very funny) anyway, we’re feeling immensely overwhelmed tonight.  too much stuff to think about and do, and nobody to support us. our abdominal pain is also back, we’re peeing all the time, and we had bl*eding when we weren’t supposed to.  well, the doctor did say we could have another ultrasound.  that’s good. will somebody write to us and let us know they’re thinking about us?

–      The colors blend, the edges soften. Swirling and mixing                    we are becoming white light.

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WOW! When I had arrhythmias my dr freaked! I"m surprised yours is so calm about it.

these days, nobody’s getting excited about anything my body does.  makes me mad.  we wish they’d show just a little interest, because we don’t want to wind up d*ad ’cause they didn’t care. What are you taking? An anti-anxiety or a heart thing?

heart.  t*prol xl.  she doesn’t think it’s anxiety (and neither do i) *shrug* Ravensong "If you feel bad, blow bubble stuff or watch the snails after it rains.  That always makes me feel better."                                     – Katy, of Ravensong

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Hi Ravensong, I don’t know your body’s age or anything but I do know that as women become perimenopausal changes in hormones can cause heart arrhythmias.  I happen to be experiencing them right now, as a matter of fact.  I can feel my heart skipping beats.  Sometimes this will happen several times a minute for a couple of weeks straight.  Then I will go for months and nothing.  Then it might start again and just happen a few times a day.  It can be somewhat scary, especially when it happens several times a minute for most of the day.  It can also sometimes make me feel slightly out of breath–just like I’m one or two breaths behind and can’t get caught up. Domino – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – WOW! When I had arrhythmias my dr freaked! I"m surprised yours is so calm about it. these days, nobody’s getting excited about anything my body does.  makes me mad.  we wish they’d show just a little interest, because we don’t want to wind up d*ad ’cause they didn’t care. What are you taking? An anti-anxiety or a heart thing? heart.  t*prol xl.  she doesn’t think it’s anxiety (and neither do i) *shrug* Ravensong "If you feel bad, blow bubble stuff or watch the snails after it rains.  That always makes me feel better."                                     – Katy, of Ravensong

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t know your body’s age or anything but I do know that as women become perimenopausal changes in hormones can cause heart arrhythmias.  I happen to be experiencing them right now, as a matter of fact.  I can feel my heart skipping beats.  Sometimes this will happen several times a minute for a couple of weeks straight.  Then I will go for months and nothing.  Then it might start again and just happen a few times a day.  It can be somewhat scary, especially when it happens several times a minute for most of the day.  It can also sometimes make me feel slightly out of breath–just like I’m one or two breaths behind and can’t get caught up. Domino

oh wow.  thank you!!!  maybe i’m not d*ing…i’m just getting old!  *giggle* seriously, thanks! diane of Ravensong – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – WOW! When I had arrhythmias my dr freaked! I"m surprised yours is so calm about it. these days, nobody’s getting excited about anything my body does.  makes me mad.  we wish they’d show just a little interest, because we don’t want to wind up d*ad ’cause they didn’t care. What are you taking? An anti-anxiety or a heart thing? heart.  t*prol xl.  she doesn’t think it’s anxiety (and neither do i) *shrug* Ravensong "If you feel bad, blow bubble stuff or watch the snails after it rains. That always makes me feel better."                                     – Katy, of Ravensong

"If you feel bad, blow bubble stuff or watch the snails after it rains.  That always makes me feel better."                                     – Katy, of Ravensong

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heehee :)  You are so welcome. :) Domino – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t know your body’s age or anything but I do know that as women become perimenopausal changes in hormones can cause heart arrhythmias.  I happen to be experiencing them right now, as a matter of fact.  I can feel my heart skipping beats.  Sometimes this will happen several times a minute for a couple of weeks straight.  Then I will go for months and nothing.  Then it might start again and just happen a few times a day.  It can be somewhat scary, especially when it happens several times a minute for most of the day.  It can also sometimes make me feel slightly out of breath–just like I’m one or two breaths behind and can’t get caught up. Domino oh wow.  thank you!!!  maybe i’m not d*ing…i’m just getting old!  *giggle* seriously, thanks! diane of Ravensong WOW! When I had arrhythmias my dr freaked! I"m surprised yours is so calm about it. these days, nobody’s getting excited about anything my body does.  makes me mad.  we wish they’d show just a little interest, because we don’t want to wind up d*ad ’cause they didn’t care. What are you taking? An anti-anxiety or a heart thing? heart.  t*prol xl.  she doesn’t think it’s anxiety (and neither do i) *shrug* Ravensong "If you feel bad, blow bubble stuff or watch the snails after it rains. That always makes me feel better."                                     – Katy, of Ravensong "If you feel bad, blow bubble stuff or watch the snails after it rains.  That always makes me feel better."                                     – Katy, of Ravensong

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Hi, Ravensong. I’m Catherine – I used to post here ages ago (using the name Laurels) and I’ve been lurking, off-and-on, since.  I hope you don’t mind if I join the conversation. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – WOW! When I had arrhythmias my dr freaked! I"m surprised yours is so calm about it. these days, nobody’s getting excited about anything my body does.  makes me mad.  we wish they’d show just a little interest, because we don’t want to wind up d*ad ’cause they didn’t care. What are you taking? An anti-anxiety or a heart thing? heart.  t*prol xl.  she doesn’t think it’s anxiety (and neither do i)

I have atrial fibrillation, which the doctor saw because they "caught" it on an EKG – it was just sort of undifferentiated arrhythmia before I happened to have a problem while in the doctor’s office.  I take Toprol XL as well (why is it spoiled?), and another heart med.  Toprol is a beta-blocker, so it functions as an anti-anxiety med even though a-fib isn’t caused by (or made worse by) anxiety.  (I have plenty of anxiety when my heart begins to do the samba, I don’t know about you.) It’s not serious in the sense that the arrhythmia isn’t life-threatening of itself – George Bush the Elder has a-fib, and he’s skydiving at 80.  It can be disabling, though, as I’m sure you know from your experience with whatever your heart problem is – I feel as if I’ve run a marathon after an "event".  Exhausting.  But as heart problems go, a-fib is pretty benign.  Not fun, though. My (unsolicited) advice?  Take your arrhythmia seriously, even if your doctor isn’t.  Make sure you take the medications seriously, too.  I have clinical depression, so the beta-blocker is a … um, challenge. I had a series of EKG’s, a stress test or two, and a sonogram of my heart to complete the diagnosis – those aren’t invasive procedures and could, at the very least, put your mind at rest. Hope this helps. Catherine

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Hi, Ravensong.

hi Catherine! I’m Catherine – I used to post here ages ago (using the name Laurels) and I’ve been lurking, off-and-on, since.  I hope you don’t mind if I join the conversation.

not at all, and welcome back. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – WOW! When I had arrhythmias my dr freaked! I"m surprised yours is so calm about it. these days, nobody’s getting excited about anything my body does.  makes me mad.  we wish they’d show just a little interest, because we don’t want to wind up d*ad ’cause they didn’t care. What are you taking? An anti-anxiety or a heart thing? heart.  t*prol xl.  she doesn’t think it’s anxiety (and neither do i) I have atrial fibrillation, which the doctor saw because they "caught" it on an EKG – it was just sort of undifferentiated arrhythmia before I happened to have a problem while in the doctor’s office.  I take Toprol XL as well (why is it spoiled?),

we sometimes splat (spoilering is when you skip a bunch of lines and then write, splatting is when you put an * in place of a vowel :-) meds (and brand names, etc….) so our posts won’t be picked up by search engines. and another heart med.  Toprol is a beta-blocker, so it functions as an anti-anxiety med even though a-fib isn’t caused by (or made worse by) anxiety.  (I have plenty of anxiety when my heart begins to do the samba, I don’t know about you.)

yes!  as a matter of fact, my anxiety goes through the roof, and i notice that i get the chest pain and shortness of breath that i usually get with anxiety if my arrhythmia starts to act up repeatedly.  annoying, ’cause then i’m not sure whether to be worried or not.  :-) It’s not serious in the sense that the arrhythmia isn’t life-threatening of itself – George Bush the Elder has a-fib, and he’s skydiving at 80.  It can be disabling, though, as I’m sure you know from your experience with whatever your heart problem is

well, that’s just it.  i don’t have a heart problem.   – I feel as if I’ve run a marathon after an "event".  Exhausting.  But as heart problems go, a-fib is pretty benign.  Not fun, though.

no. My (unsolicited) advice?  Take your arrhythmia seriously, even if your doctor isn’t.  Make sure you take the medications seriously, too.  I have clinical depression, so the beta-blocker is a … um, challenge.

you mean, like…exhausting?  i also have a major depressive disorder, just now after many, many years under some semblance of order, and the last few days i’ve been so tired.  more physically tired than i could ever imagine. I had a series of EKG’s, a stress test or two, and a sonogram of my heart to complete the diagnosis – those aren’t invasive procedures and could, at the very least, put your mind at rest. Hope this helps.

yes, it does.  i’m going to talk to my doctor again when i see her next month…i’ve had an echo…though it was awhile ago…and it seems that she ought to be trying to make sure there is no clinical reason i have this…or am i barking up the wrong tree? diane Catherine

"If you feel bad, blow bubble stuff or watch the snails after it rains.  That always makes me feel better."                                     – Katy, of Ravensong

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Just some info I got when I had my embolism (97). The anxiety you feel during your ‘events’ is most likely a biological reaction from your body to get your attention. One of the classic symptoms of heart problems is severe, out of the blue, anxiety (even if you have no history of it). My dr said it was my body’s way to get my attention so I would stop what I was doing an pay attention to my symptoms. It is really common with heart attacks, embolisms, angina, arrythmias, etc. and isn’t the same thing as anxiety like most people think of. Rainbow Colors (Jill) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, Ravensong. hi Catherine! I’m Catherine – I used to post here ages ago (using the name Laurels) and I’ve been lurking, off-and-on, since.  I hope you don’t mind if I join the conversation. not at all, and welcome back. WOW! When I had arrhythmias my dr freaked! I"m surprised yours is so calm about it. these days, nobody’s getting excited about anything my body does.  makes me mad.  we wish they’d show just a little interest, because we don’t want to wind up d*ad ’cause they didn’t care. What are you taking? An anti-anxiety or a heart thing? heart.  t*prol xl.  she doesn’t think it’s anxiety (and neither do i) I have atrial fibrillation, which the doctor saw because they "caught" it on an EKG – it was just sort of undifferentiated arrhythmia before I happened to have a problem while in the doctor’s office.  I take Toprol XL as well (why is it spoiled?), we sometimes splat (spoilering is when you skip a bunch of lines and then write, splatting is when you put an * in place of a vowel :-) meds (and brand names, etc….) so our posts won’t be picked up by search engines. and another heart med.  Toprol is a beta-blocker, so it functions as an anti-anxiety med even though a-fib isn’t caused by (or made worse by) anxiety.  (I have plenty of anxiety when my heart begins to do the samba, I don’t know about you.) yes!  as a matter of fact, my anxiety goes through the roof, and i notice that i get the chest pain and shortness of breath that i usually get with anxiety if my arrhythmia starts to act up repeatedly.  annoying, ’cause then i’m not sure whether to be worried or not.  :-) It’s not serious in the sense that the arrhythmia isn’t life-threatening of itself – George Bush the Elder has a-fib, and he’s skydiving at 80.  It can be disabling, though, as I’m sure you know from your experience with whatever your heart problem is well, that’s just it.  i don’t have a heart problem.   – I feel as if I’ve run a marathon after an "event".  Exhausting.  But as heart problems go, a-fib is pretty benign.  Not fun, though. no. My (unsolicited) advice?  Take your arrhythmia seriously, even if your doctor isn’t.  Make sure you take the medications seriously, too.  I have clinical depression, so the beta-blocker is a … um, challenge. you mean, like…exhausting?  i also have a major depressive disorder, just now after many, many years under some semblance of order, and the last few days i’ve been so tired.  more physically tired than i could ever imagine. I had a series of EKG’s, a stress test or two, and a sonogram of my heart to complete the diagnosis – those aren’t invasive procedures and could, at the very least, put your mind at rest. Hope this helps. yes, it does.  i’m going to talk to my doctor again when i see her next month…i’ve had an echo…though it was awhile ago…and it seems that she ought to be trying to make sure there is no clinical reason i have this…or am i barking up the wrong tree? diane Catherine "If you feel bad, blow bubble stuff or watch the snails after it rains.  That always makes me feel better."                                    - Katy, of Ravensong

–      The colors blend, the edges soften. Swirling and mixing                    we are becoming white light.

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Hey, do I know about medical problems and scares?     Uh huh!  You bet. Loads of sympathy and I will write more later. trill

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – gonna spoiler for talk about multiple medical problems (er…that’s many, not…oh, never mind) and lots of anxieties… * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * had a bad day today.  almost constantly having that fluttering in the heart…an arrhythmia that nobody seems very worried about, and we wouldn’t either, except that it feels like we have butterflies or moths in our chest, wanting to get out all the time.  and with work, which was a little bit stressful today, because people were treating other people kinda mean, we got the shortness of breath and pain that we get when we get anxious but, of course, we were also having the fluttering thing, and that scared us a little bit. we thought about leaving the work, and going to the hospital, but then thought that they’d just think we’re crazy, which we pretty much think we are, so we decided if we were going to d*e, we might as well just go ahead and get it over with. well, we didn’t. we did call the doctor, and she gave us some pills to take every day to take the butterflies and moths away.  (somebody inside is laughing and saying it’s an insecticide.  somebody else doesn’t think that’s very funny) anyway, we’re feeling immensely overwhelmed tonight.  too much stuff to think about and do, and nobody to support us. our abdominal pain is also back, we’re peeing all the time, and we had bl*eding when we weren’t supposed to.  well, the doctor did say we could have another ultrasound.  that’s good. will somebody write to us and let us know they’re thinking about us?

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will somebody write to us and let us know they’re thinking about us?

Sorry you’re going through it.  Hope your butterflies go away soon. Baba Yaga — I am a man; nothing that relates to man do I deem alien to me. – Terence

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