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Since reading this post, every time I get pain I now lift up my movable rib and hey presto the pain goes away !!!!! Thankyou very much for this information, I will now speak to my Dr about it, and see what she suggests Thanks again Sarah x x x{{{{big hug}}}} – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Stefan Back wrote in message <37B0A5F8.9F9AA…@irrblosset.se>… >Hi, >I just want to share a thing with you. >It seems like problems with the lowest (11th and 12th pairs) ribs can cause >symptoms which are quite similar to what people with IBS have to fight with: >intermittent abdominal pain, waist pain and even groin pain, frequent >diarrheas, nauseous. There is no inflammation in the intestines. The location >of the worst pain can move from one day to another (or from one hour to >another). The pain is normally one-sided, but can be bilateral. The pain can >be very sharp and stabbing, and other days there is only a mild dull ache. >A difference is maybe that individuals with the Twelfth Rib Syndrome also have >loin pain (feels like renal pain). In most cases the pain will become much >worse if the tips of the 12th or 11th ribs are manipulated (if the doctor push >the tip of the rib where it ends in the backside of the waist). But I have >heard about some cases where the abdominal pain has disappeared for a while >when the 11th rib was pushed upwards. >One cause of the Twelfth Rib Syndrome is hypermobility of the ribs (they move >around too much), which compress nerves to abdomen (intercostal nerves) and to >the groin (ilioinguinal nerves, iliohypogastric nerves). After a meal the >abdominal pressure is higher, and the nerves get compressed from two >directions, which cause more pain. >Another condition which might cause similar symptoms is facet joint disorder >in the mid-back (T10, T11, T12, L1). Some patients have underwent extensive >gastroenterologic and urologic investigations, and even surgeries, before the >doctors finally find out the truth. >I am one of these patients. >Stefan Back

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No, I have only found a few medical articles about it; patient cases, not big studies. Stefan ______________________________ In article < p%tt3.1740$q.50…@news.clear.net.nz>,   "Warwick Phillips" < philli…@clear.net.nz> wrote: > Interesting. I have loin pain as you describe and IBS but no associated > abdominal pain – any sources of further informatioin on this > Warwick

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Here’s some stuff from MedLine: Title Slipping rib syndrome: an overlooked cause of chest and abdominal pain. Author Lum-Hee N; Abdulla AJ Address Royal Devon Hospital, Exeter, UK. Source Int J Clin Pract, 51(4):252-3 1997 Jun Abstract Slipping rib syndrome is a poorly recognised cause of chest and abdominal pain. It occurs principally in the middle-aged but may occur at any age. It is equally common in men and women and is frequently confused with other serious causes of chest and abdominal pain. Patients are often subjected to extensive and sometimes invasive needless investigation for unexplained symptoms. Greater awareness of this syndrome among clinicians could sale both patient and doctor time and unnecessary concern. Two case reports are presented. Title [Painful rib syndrome (or Cyriax syndrome). Study of 100 patients] Author Barki J; Blanc P; Michel J; Pageaux GP; Hachemane-Aourag S; Carabalona JP; Larrey D; Michel H Address Service d’H

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