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"Enchante`" <bon…@mvp.net> wrote in message;

…..(edited)… One of the doctors said he thought in a > few months the D would go away since thats the part of the bowel or > intestine that was removed…I just dont know.  Lately I dont know what to > think or what to do….My surgery was on June 18 2001

================= Maybe I can give you a little information that you may find helpful. I also had some intestine surgically removed nearly 20 years ago, because of Crohn’s disease. They cut out about 2 1/2 feet of bowel. I was also warned beforehand by the doctors that I may get D after the surgery, but with time it would likely settle down. That was exactly what happened. After the surgery, I was having D 8-10 times a day, every day. The food just seemed to go right through, mostly undigested. But after 5 or 6 months it settled down and got back to a much more "normal" 1 or 2 bowel movements per day. I developed IBS starting in that period right after the surgery, but that’s another story. I should also say that unlike most people with Crohn’s disease, and many with IBS, diarrhea has never been much of a problem for me, except for those few months after surgery. So just hang in there, the D should settle down after a few months, that was my experience anyway. You should remember, though, that if you had a previous history of IBS with D, that will still probably be there afterwards, but the D may well become less as your digestive system recovers from the surgery. I hope this helps. -marty

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So what do I do now K ? I am at loss as to what step to take next. Please help me, I beg you. I appreciate all you have written but it gives me no answers as to where do I go now. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 18 Different Servers! =—–

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In article <3b7c1f5…@news.newsgroups.com>, "Enchante`" <bon…@mvp.net> writes: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->"Enchante`" <bon…@mvp.net> wrote in message >news:[email protected]… >> So what do I do now K ? >> I am at loss as to what step to take next. >> Please help me, I beg you. >> I appreciate all you have written but it gives me no answers as to where >do >> I go now. >> —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– >> http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >> —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 18 Different Servers! =—–

Reposted from the KMOTTUS thread n article <3b790d9…@news.newsgroups.com>, "Enchante`" <bon…@mvp.net> writes: >Thank you for your response. >Now where do I go from here? >I am so afraid I will never be normal or even close to it again!  And do not >know which way to turn. >Please…any suggestions i will appreciate.

1) Do you have a gastroenterologist that seems to be willing to work with you.  If not it may be time to go doctor shopping. 2)  You may never be normal again, and you may have to learn to accept you have a chronic condition that while you may get good control over you may never get rid of.   It may take a bit of grieving for the old life.  IBS has a very low remission rate, but some people do go into remission.  MOST IBSers find ways to control this chronic condition and live a satisfying life, although they may end up with different goals and priorities than they had before they got a chronic illness. 3).There are drugs in the pipeline so there is hope that if the current treatments don’t work enough for you something may in the near future. 4) Have you investigated doing something that works more directly on the nerves in the GI tract.  Antidepressants work on all the bodies nerves and sometimes can give really good control over the IBS (most of the drugs in the pipeline target various receptors on these nerves).  And you could look into mind-body therapies.  They can be suprisingly effective because your brain talks to the nerves in your gut and it can either do things that help talk the gut down from its problems or it can make the gut behave even worse. You can learn to change how the mind interacts with the gut. I went from VERY severe PAIN.  Not much in the diarrhea but severe crippling abdominal pain to being mostly normal and in complete remission with minimal medication after doing 3 months of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy in 1998 and that change has lasted all this time.  Hypnotherapy is another option that works well and www.ibsaudioprogram.com seems to have a good one and not everyone has someone in their area specifically trained to do CBT or hypno for IBS patients.  The CBT I did was specific for IBS and was part of a large scale clinical trial.  They should be finishing it up soon and will publish the results of it. K. ********************************************************* Failure is not an option, it comes packaged with the software kmot…@aol.com

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The surgery; all I know is doctor said he removed part of my intestines because of damage due to a very large hernia which invaded my stomach wall and caused a hole in it. I have no idea how I got the hernia . Thanks KMottus for your explaination of cholestyramine.  I have never been told I had a high colestrol reading except when I had my gall bladder attack and surgery 7 years ago and then doctor said it was a little too high but did nothing about it. My understanding is that the lower bowel ( intestine?) has been removed up to 1 1/2 ft.  One of the doctors said he thought in a few months the D would go away since thats the part of the bowel or intestine that was removed…I just dont know.  Lately I dont know what to think or what to do….My surgery was on June 18 2001 —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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In article <3b77e35…@news.newsgroups.com>, "Enchante`" <bon…@mvp.net> writes: >all I know is doctor said he removed part of my intestines because of damage >due to a very large hernia which invaded my stomach wall and caused a hole >in it. I have no idea how I got the hernia .

Yep if intestines get mucked up with a hernia they often get strangulated and if not removed they can die and cause problems. Alot of people who have GI diseases other than IBS (Inflamatory Bowel Disease mostly) have to have parts of the colon removed as that disease process can damage the intestines so bad they have to be removed.  If you had one of those then treatment would need to be different than with IBS. >Thanks KMottus for your explaination of cholestyramine.  I have never been >told I had a high colestrol reading except when I had my gall bladder attack >and surgery 7 years ago and then doctor said it was a little too high but >did nothing about it.

Since cholestyramine is fairly harmless (nothing is totally harmless) the doctors do not seem to be to concerned about using it even in people who normally wouldn’t need it for cholesterol-lowering. Just because a drug was developed for one use doesn’t mean that it isn’t useful for other things. In a recent New England Journal of Medicine (a top rated medical journal) an article on IBS they suggested using this for diarrhea predominate IBS. As long as your cholesterol isn’t abnormally low there shouldn’t be much of a problem using it for diarrhea.  If your cholesterol is just a little high usually they mostly just monitor it, or have you alter your diet. >My understanding is that the lower bowel ( intestine?) >has been removed up to 1 1/2 ft.  One of the doctors said he thought in a >few months the D would go away since thats the part of the bowel or >intestine that was removed…I just dont know.  Lately I dont know what to >think or what to do….My surgery was on June 18 2001

I’ve got a couple of thoughts. 1) if part of the colon was being mucked up by the hernia there could be some expectation that removing the mucked up part could ease the diarrhea.  After all the intestines don’t have alot of different ways to respond to distress and dumping in water and mucus into the intestines and expelling it rapidly is the typical response to anything bad. 2)  There are a LOT of nerves that contol the digestive process. Whenever you cut into the abdomen there is a risk you could muck up this vast neural net in a way that digestion is no longer as well regulated as one would like.  It could be that the surgery helped one thing but had some unforseen problems mucking something else up.  Unlike some of the large nerves that are easy to spot the neural net is mostly microscopic and alot of it is in the wall of the intestine so you certainly have some parts of it missing since they took out part of the intestine.  There wouldn’t be anyway to not remove the nerves when part of the intestine is pulled out.  Sometimes the neural net can repair itself well enough to function well (takes a few weeks to months) sometimes it doesn’t. GI Infections are also something that seems to disrupt the neural net and can cause IBS as a result. 3) The gall bladder is what regulates bile flow into the colon so if it has been bothersome in the past that may be another indication that bile could be part of the problem. K. ********************************************************* Failure is not an option, it comes packaged with the software kmot…@aol.com

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