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Sounds good. I hadn’t thought of the horseradish or the sea salt, but bet it gives it a little extra zing. I love cole slaw and don’t even miss the potato salad anymore. You’re right, with all the BBQ, the weekend belongs to the low carbers !

Obligatory Tip-  Got some cabbage pre-shredded at the market. It’s handy to – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -make your own Cole Slaw. Some of the store bought has sugar or it’s too vinegary. I like to fix mine with a few tablespoons of Hellman’s, a dollop of French’s Yellow Mustard, a pinch of Horseradish, minced celery, 2 teaspoons of cider vinegar, Sea Salt and fresh ground pepper. One added benefit of making the stuff at home is you don’t have to worry about some wiseguy at the supermarket adding any "secret" ingredients in.

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Mike, Would you please post a sample of your daily menu? I am only 4 days into LC’n and am already getting burned out on the food… I am asking you because you seem to being doing so well at LC’n and share the same feelings I do about eating things such as Tofu, vegie protin, ect. So I am asking in hopes that maybe you will list something that I have not already thought of…. Any ideas you have I would greatly appreciate to help keep my taste bud sanity… Thanks! Chelly :0)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tvp is useful in that it aquires the flavor of whatever you combine it with. It’s really quite good if you’re creative.. BDJ That’s the same claim to fame that Tofu has!  EeeYuk! I like my flavor, straight from the source.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mike, Would you please post a sample of your daily menu? I am only 4 days into LC’n and am already getting burned out on the food… I am asking you because you seem to being doing so well at LC’n and share the same feelings I do about eating things such as Tofu, vegie protin, ect. So I am asking in hopes that maybe you will list something that I have not already thought of…. Any ideas you have I would greatly appreciate to help keep my taste bud sanity… Thanks! Chelly :0

Hi Chelly, Let me start by listing what I buy at the supermarket. One thought before that though…are you following some particular regime? Drinking enough water? Following some type of plan is important and be sure to get your supplements and water intake in order. Exercise will _NOT_ hurt either! At The Market… Coconuts, red, green and yellow bell peppers, green beans, jalepenos, spaghetti squash, romaine, anise, celery, radishes, shredded cabbage, broccoli, broccoli rab, iceburg lettuce, cukes, snow peas, cauliflower, asparagus and artichokes. I’m sure I’m missing something from produce.. Meat and Fish… Smoked fish, shrimp, fish fillets, salmon steaks, ribeyes, rack of ribs, rib roast, (i like ribs) ground beef, pork loin roast, pork loin steaks, bratwursts, German and Italian sausage, (hot&sweet) cured ham, bacon, chicken, turkey, veal and Canadian bacon.  I stop at the deli and get Danish Ham, Brunsweiger, swiss cheese, german bologna, salami, pepperoni, turkey breast and sliced provolone. I keep Heavy cream, sour cream, cottage cheese, and butter on hand. Half and Half for coffee. I buy almonds, brazil nuts, pecans and walnuts from the bulk bins and snack on these. Also snack on olives, pork rinds, roasted peppers in olive oil, garden salad the jar. Different kind of cheeses. Sometimes I’ll make a antipasto and have that for lunch. We usually cook on the grill. I am a certified Grill Master (4th degree) and we always have a salad with ranch dressing or I make up some nice Italian with Virgin olive oil and Balsamic vinegar. Breakfast is usually an omelet of some type…from just a slice of cheese to artichoke hearts and slivered almonds. I like to keep a ham in the fridge and slice off some for breakfast as well. I’ll have either that or bacon. When I make sausage, I make some sausage gravy as well. Lunch can be anything… A can of tuna dumped on a nice mixed salad with a heap of Hellmans and a hard boiled egg is good. When your out and about, most every place has a grilled chicken salad you can dig into too. Just tell em to hold the croutons and give you Ranch dressing. I like to eat cold cut roll-ups for lunch too. Sometimes I’ll have a bag of Pork rinds and some nuts and just skip lunch if I’m not hungry. I do like spam and sardines are a quick snack too. A hamburger siting on a big Portabella mushroom is a nice treat as is just having two burger with cheese and some hot peppers. Dinner is more involved. One dish that both I and my wife love is spaghetti squash with alfredo sauce and shrimp. I do the shrimp in butter and garlic with a little cumin and then dump it right into an Alfredo sauce that I buy in the jar. Then I put that over the top of the scooped out spaghetti squash. It’s pretty fantastic. I always add in a little fresh ground Romano and pepper. We do eat a lot of grilled meats. Kabasa is great grilled as well as brats with sauerkraut. I like to thoroughly rinse my kraut to get the vinegar taste out, then cook it up with butter and a touch of garlic. We always have salad and sometimes put cheese on the veggies. I do a 5 meat chili that’s pretty cool and I just picked up some more Knoor soups yesterday that looks like they will be around 10 carbs a serving. Enter in alt.support.diet.low-carb  in the forum field and recipe in the subject field and you should get 1300 hundred or so LC recipes. If you fool with the keywords in the Power Search, you can dig up more specific recipes. Here’s my chili recipe… I’ve been whipping up Chili for many years and this is just a little variation on Texas Chili, which has no beans. The carb count should be up around 10-14 grams so it’s not carb free but if you allow yourself 20 carbs a day, it’s easy to fit this dish into your meal plan. First simmer 1.5 pounds of relatively lean ground beef for twenty minutes. Drain the fat. Dice up about 1.5 pound of sirloin tips or any cut beef you like. Dice up a pound or so ham. Dice up a pound or so pork loin. I like to dice the meat a little smaller than a sugar cube. In your Chile pot, go a couple TBL spoons of olive oil and a small diced vidalia onion. Throw in 3 TBL spoons diced garlic and let these brown for 5 minutes, stirring occasionally. Throw in the meat, throw in a 16 oz. can of stewed tomatoes, (no sugar added) and fill the can a little less than half with water and add that. Throw in half of a small can of tomato paste. Stir well, breaking up the bigger pieces of tomato. Dice up 3 jalepano peppers, 2 green banana peppers and one big yellow bell pepper and add to pot. Season with course salt and about 2 TBL spoons of Chile powder. Let this simmer about 30 minutes. In the meantime, gather a medium zucchini, 1/3 cup almonds, 1/4 cup heavy cream and a pile of grated sharp cheddar cheese. Quarter the zucchini, leaving the skin and slice it about 3/8 of an inch thick. After the 30 minutes are up, check the dish, you should have a nice consistency and colorful too,with the stewed tomatoes and yellow bell pepper catching your eye. Now, to get a better consistency, grind up the almonds in the blender to obtain a course, flour like state and add that, along with the heavy cream and stir in. It really thickens up the Chile and gives it a nice look. Lastly, toss in the zucchini and let simmer an additional 15 to twenty minutes only. You want the zucchini to stay fairly crisp, as it adds to the texture of the dish. Serve in a large Chile bowl with the grated sharp cheddar on top. What makes this dish great is using the almonds and cream to thicken the Chile and make sure you use fresh jalepano peppers. The ingredients can be as varied as you like. Add sausage or okra. It’s nice to have a little variety and this dish certainly is different than the regular low carb fare I’ve been eating. Remember, you can use up most of your carb count with this dish, so plan accordingly. It is worth it though. PS- Next time I make this chili, I’m going to use some of the grated cauliflower that katypillar suggested. I’ve already made some hot and sour soup with it and it’s great. Hope this helps Ya!

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Oh my, stuffed cabbages! Now that’s a great idea! ummm might be a good filler with meatloaf also :) )

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I repeat, your suggestion was a stroke of brilliance! I am going to use them for chili and stuffed cabbages as well! I already have a one gallon zip lock bag filled up with ground cauliflower in the fridge! Thank You Dear Woman, THANK YOU!!! Taking the absolutely brilliant suggestion of grated Cauliflower for a rice substitute, offered by a forgotten poster, It was me  :) I thought it made a decent rice substitute, but I’m not terribly picky, so I posted it quite hesitantly—wondering if others wouldn’t like it. You made my whole day by making the comment above.  Thank you — Usenet Rule #1 You have the right to remain silent; anything you say will be misquoted and used against you.

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I struck paydirt today in the Harris Teeter. While perusing the soup mixes, I discovered Kikkoman Hot and Sour Soup Mix. You boil the contents with water and add one well beaten egg and serve. Carbs per serving- 6  I was in heaven before I even brought it home and after eating it, I can tell you I’ll be back there tomorrow to buy a dozen. Taking the absolutely brilliant suggestion of grated Cauliflower for a rice substitute, offered by a forgotten poster, I added some of that, as well as a handful of bean sprouts and some grilled chicken breast. A little extra soy sauce, red cumin pepper and salt and I truly enjoyed this meal. Here’s the link for Kikkoman http://www.kikkoman.com/ Next up is the new Quaker Crispy Minis. They are mini rice cakes. Mine are Sour Cream and Onion. About 10 of them are 12 carbs. This will require _much_ will power to just eat ten for any particular day. I stowed mine in a plastic food container and put em on the top shelf. When I eat some, I grab a bowl and then go to the container and put my ten in the bowl and then close them back up and put them away. I don’t dare eat those from the bag. These are so new, there’s no mention of them on the web site yet. http://www.quakeroats.com/ My third pick today was Kashi Puffed Cereal. It’s a puffed rice plus whole grain cereal that is 13 carbs per 1 cup serving. Add a half cup whole milk and we’re up to 20 carbs and maybe flirting with disaster. I’ll have to make this "cereal day" a special day and go 0 carbs or as close to it for the rest of the day but I have to say I’m excited about added in some cereal and milk for breakfast! I could just see it now, The bacon and eggs _AND_ the beautiful little bowl of milk and cereal! Here’s the link to the Kashi site. http://www.kashi.com/ — Atkins- 4/28/00    **Not even ONE cheat** 280  242  215   36 Years Old   5′10"   Large Frame Doing it right, taking no prisoners and offering no apologies!

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I struck paydirt today in the Harris Teeter. While perusing the soup mixes, I discovered Kikkoman Hot and Sour Soup Mix. You boil the contents with water and add one well beaten egg and serve. Carbs per serving- 6  I was in heaven before I even brought it home and after eating it, I can tell you I’ll be back there tomorrow to buy a dozen. Taking the absolutely brilliant suggestion of grated Cauliflower for a rice substitute, offered by a forgotten poster, I added some of that, as well as a handful of bean sprouts and some grilled chicken breast. A little extra soy sauce, red cumin pepper and salt and I truly enjoyed this meal.

Have you tried TVP as a rice substitute?  Yummy. Cheers, Nina — 100% Angst. http://www.theslack.com

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I struck paydirt today in the Harris Teeter. While perusing the soup mixes, I discovered Kikkoman Hot and Sour Soup Mix. You boil the contents with water and add one well beaten egg and serve. Carbs per serving- 6

Really?  I have a dusty old box of Knorr’s Hot & Sour on my "Carbohydrate Memorial Shelf".  I’ll have to check it out. I was in heaven before I even brought it home and after eating it, I can tell you I’ll be back there tomorrow to buy a dozen. Taking the absolutely brilliant suggestion of grated Cauliflower for a rice substitute, offered by a forgotten poster, I added some of that, as well as a handful of bean sprouts and some grilled chicken breast. A little extra soy sauce, red cumin pepper and salt and I truly enjoyed this meal.

Nice.  Definitely worth a try. Next up is the new Quaker Crispy Minis. They are mini rice cakes.

…and… My third pick today was Kashi Puffed Cereal.

Keep scouting Mike, I’m taking notes for my post-workout carb meals. Best, Dave Before you buy.

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I agree with you, Nina.  I love TVP as rice.  It’s perfect.  I could always taste the cauliflower.  I know it’s blasphemous in this group, but I don’t really care for the fauxtatoes either. Regarding the Puffed Kashi.  I also prefer the Nutlettes cereal that www.low-carb.com carries.  Tastes great with a shake of Splenda and soy milk and only 6 carbs for 1/2 cup serving (which is a lot). $0.02 Elizabeth 143/137.5/120 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Have you tried TVP as a rice substitute?  Yummy.

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I repeat, your suggestion was a stroke of brilliance! I am going to use them for chili and stuffed cabbages as well! I already have a one gallon zip lock bag filled up with ground cauliflower in the fridge! Thank You Dear Woman, THANK YOU!!!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Taking the absolutely brilliant suggestion of grated Cauliflower for a rice substitute, offered by a forgotten poster, It was me  :) I thought it made a decent rice substitute, but I’m not terribly picky, so I posted it quite hesitantly—wondering if others wouldn’t like it. You made my whole day by making the comment above.  Thank you — Usenet Rule #1 You have the right to remain silent; anything you say will be misquoted and used against you.

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"Nina says…" Have you tried TVP as a rice substitute?  Yummy.

And what is TVP please… I hope I didn’t stick my chin out???

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as I posted earlier this week, after trying stillman last week I decided to have a relaxed 100g carbs or less (per day) weekend, and one of my picks was dominos thin n’ crispy crust pizza with pepperoni and black olives.  I went to the web site and was gratified to see that a serving for a medium pizza is 1/4 of the whole thing and is only about 33 g.  Which makes the whole pizza (this was for cheese only) around 130g.  I only had my 1/4 serving of course, but cool! I am posting this link below so that those of you who are on maintenance or something more relaxed than atkins/induction can check it out… http://www.dominos.com/Menu/nutrition.cfm?Title=Crunchy%20Thin%20Crust sonya SO – what a reason to reach goal and get on maintenance, pizza to look forward to! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I struck paydirt today in the Harris Teeter. While perusing the soup mixes, I discovered Kikkoman Hot and Sour Soup Mix. You boil the contents with water and add one well beaten egg and serve. Carbs per serving- 6  I was in heaven before I even brought it home and after eating it, I can tell you I’ll be back there tomorrow to buy a dozen. Taking the absolutely brilliant suggestion of grated Cauliflower for a rice substitute, offered by a forgotten poster, I added some of that, as well as a handful of bean sprouts and some grilled chicken breast. A little extra soy sauce, red cumin pepper and salt and I truly enjoyed this meal. Here’s the link for Kikkoman http://www.kikkoman.com/ Next up is the new Quaker Crispy Minis. They are mini rice cakes. Mine are Sour Cream and Onion. About 10 of them are 12 carbs. This will require _much_ will power to just eat ten for any particular day. I stowed mine in a plastic food container and put em on the top shelf. When I eat some, I grab a bowl and then go to the container and put my ten in the bowl and then close them back up and put them away. I don’t dare eat those from the bag. These are so new, there’s no mention of them on the web site yet. http://www.quakeroats.com/ My third pick today was Kashi Puffed Cereal. It’s a puffed rice plus whole grain cereal that is 13 carbs per 1 cup serving. Add a half cup whole milk and we’re up to 20 carbs and maybe flirting with disaster. I’ll have to make this "cereal day" a special day and go 0 carbs or as close to it for the rest of the day but I have to say I’m excited about added in some cereal and milk for breakfast! I could just see it now, The bacon and eggs _AND_ the beautiful little bowl of milk and cereal! Here’s the link to the Kashi site. http://www.kashi.com/ — Atkins- 4/28/00    **Not even ONE cheat** 280  242  215   36 Years Old   5′10"   Large Frame Doing it right, taking no prisoners and offering no apologies!

Before you buy.

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TVP is textured vegetable protein, Mike.  It’s made from soybeans. — Linda 170/152/125 JOIN US on  IRC’s Undernet #lowcarb Channel! Need Help Getting on IRC?  Click here: http://www.jaxworld.com/lowcarb/irc.html See some great ASDLC success stories (and beautiful works in progress): http://www.jaxworld.com/lowcarb/stories.html Mejor a decir nada y permitir otras personas pensar tu eres un tonto, que abrir tu boca y quita toda duda. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "Nina says…" Have you tried TVP as a rice substitute?  Yummy. And what is TVP please… I hope I didn’t stick my chin out???

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Thanks Linda but I think I’ll pass. I don’t like flax or tofu and this stuff sounds eerily similar. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – TVP is textured vegetable protein, Mike.  It’s made from soybeans. — Linda 170/152/125 JOIN US on  IRC’s Undernet #lowcarb Channel! Need Help Getting on IRC?  Click here: http://www.jaxworld.com/lowcarb/irc.html See some great ASDLC success stories (and beautiful works in progress): http://www.jaxworld.com/lowcarb/stories.html Mejor a decir nada y permitir otras personas pensar tu eres un tonto, que abrir tu boca y quita toda duda. "Nina says…" Have you tried TVP as a rice substitute?  Yummy. And what is TVP please… I hope I didn’t stick my chin out???

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – as I posted earlier this week, after trying stillman last week I decided to have a relaxed 100g carbs or less (per day) weekend, and one of my picks was dominos thin n’ crispy crust pizza with pepperoni and black olives.  I went to the web site and was gratified to see that a serving for a medium pizza is 1/4 of the whole thing and is only about 33 g.  Which makes the whole pizza (this was for cheese only) around 130g.  I only had my 1/4 serving of course, but cool! I am posting this link below so that those of you who are on maintenance or something more relaxed than atkins/induction can check it out… http://www.dominos.com/Menu/nutrition.cfm?Title=Crunchy%20Thin%20Crust sonya SO – what a reason to reach goal and get on maintenance, pizza to look forward to!

Ya know, when I was driving around earlier this week I was wondering bout thin crust pizza with extra cheese and how many carbs it may have!  Thanks for the Maintenance Disclaimer and good info! The closest I’ve been to Pizza was peeling the top of a extra cheese, pepperoni and back olives at Chuck E Cheese. We took the kids there and that pizza was calling my name the whole time so I did the next best thing and just ate the toppings. Perfectly legal and pretty satisfying. I’d like to hear more of what people on maintenance eat. I’m beginning to think that the rumor of your Kidneys failing soon after you reach goal might be true.

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I’d like to hear more of what people on maintenance eat. I’m beginning to think that the rumor of your Kidneys failing soon after you reach goal might be true.

Mike, Are you making a serious statement about the kidney thing, or are you being sarcastic? I know some people in the NG have complained about kidney pain during the diet, and I know you have said many times that you are doing it 100%, so Are you having any adverse effects at all? If you’re serious, please tell me why you think the rumor might be true. Tuffy

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I’d like to hear more of what people on maintenance eat. I’m beginning to think that the rumor of your Kidneys failing soon after you reach goal might be true. Mike, Are you making a serious statement about the kidney thing, or are you being sarcastic?

WHAT!! ME!! Sarcastic!!!??? Whatever gave you _THAT_ idea??? i gotta go now, i have a kidney cramp… I know some people in the NG have complained about kidney pain – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – during the diet, and I know you have said many times that you are doing it 100%, so Are you having any adverse effects at all? If you’re serious, please tell me why you think the rumor might be true. Tuffy

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Mike, Are you making a serious statement about the kidney thing, or are you being sarcastic? WHAT!! ME!! Sarcastic!!!??? Whatever gave you _THAT_ idea??? i gotta go now, i have a kidney cramp…

Big sigh…I should have known better than to ask you a serious question about a serious subject. Add this

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